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Atheists Sue to Scrub 'God' from Capitol Visitors Center
Reps. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Eric Cantor (R-Va.) are ganging up to block a lawsuit seeking to scrub "In God We Trust" from the wall of the new Capitol Visitors Center.
In all, 41 House Republicans have signed onto to an amicus brief opposing an attempt by the Madison, Wisc.-based Freedom From Religion Foundation to remove the inscription, which also includes the words "one nation under God."
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kaneki
Christians need to take a stand before it's too late. Look what's happening in Britain. It's already happening here.
http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplayer/cbnplayer.swf?aid=9425
Jim in JAX
Ovid: Fortunately for me, the United States Supreme Court agrees with me - not you - in that by refusing to hear any more cases they have affirmed that "In God We Trust" IS NOT A RELIGIOUS STATEMENT. By the way, that phrase is also on the wall at the Supreme Court. Looks like I'm not wrong at all.
Mavric1919
"In God we trust" is the motto of the United States of America.. Look it up I think it is also the motto of a few states also.. Its also in the last verse of the national anthem..(we only sing the first at baseball games and such). Guess we should change all of that too... And to never recite the declaration of independence.. for it says "which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them" and "that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights"...
By the "Seperation of Church and State" as seen by atheists the Declaration of Independence can not be viewed in a government building.
US Male
"Religious freedom is the chief cornerstone of the American system of government and provisions for its security are embedded in the written charter and interwoven in the moral fabric of its laws."
Thomas Y. Bayard
Loyal72
"Jim in Jax" has it RIGHT concernin the First Amendment. But I an fascinated by atheists! They seem to be afraid as he!! of something they to not believe in or is true! That simply makes no sense! Noone forces them to believe, or attend church! Have they been turned down a job, or housing, food, clothing, etc. because they are atheist? Maybe being atheist is just boring as he!!, and they need to fill their time with this to feel a part of SOMETHING!
Z
As a dem. let me just say there had better be a whole lot of democrats that sign to stop this from happening. If they don't like that we and this country believe in God then I guess they need to leave this country ,I don't think anyone would care if they left. I know I wouldn't.
Jim in JAX
If either side is going to try to quote the First Amendment to make any point, you should at least TRY to get it right. Most get the first part right, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion," but then you leave out the second part,".. or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" You can't use one part without the other. Putting "In God We Trust" on any building isn't the establishment of a religion as no one is forced to believe it. But blocking it IS "prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
Ovid
You are entirely wrong. Putting "Ingod we trust" on a public building is an endorsment of religion, which is "establishment." An individual has the right to free exercise of religion, a slogan on a public building is not an individual expressing their first amedment right. You are seriously ill informed about the first amendment.
kaneki
Then it must be an endorsement on the U.S currency as well. Are you going to have that removed as well?
kaneki
People didn't seem to have a problem with it fifty years ago, now did they?
Mavric1919
Which religion does it endorse?
Youmovetheearth.org
I heard an atheist once say - dont force your values on me. I would encourage them to walk their talk and stop pushing their belief that God does not exist on the rest of the 92% of Americans who do believe He exists. Secondly, let us keep whatever phrase is normal and acceptable since we paid 92% of the tax bill that built these government buildings.
saltydizzle
92% huh? where are you coming up with these numbers? citation please.
US Male
"My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitolism."
Karl Marx
So there is a link between atheism and communism but that does not mean that all atheists are communists. It does make them irrational and thoughtless, however. Not to mention arrogant.
spleen
The atheism = communism thread is a bit delusional. Our constitution makes pains not to include God in the legal framework of our political sysyem. Does that make America communist? Not in the least.
US Male
Atheist are nothing but a bunch of haters. They pretend to be so rational yet get so irrational at the thought of anything God. If they really think about this, its not about not believing in God, its about believing in God and hating Him.
But one cannot expect the irrational to do that.
Walter the Moose
I wonder if we can sue to eliminate athiests. . .just a thought. Majority rules. . .remember?
Walter the Moose
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Excalibur
mavric.............The Constitution protects religion FROM the government.............!
USANUMBER2
USA is not a christian nation. Nothing about god in the constitution at all. All the god stuff was added into the pledge and money during the 40's when people were afraid of communism. There are lots of christians in the country but the constitution protects others from them forcing their religion on everyone else like in this case here. Keep religion statements off of public property. My atheist tax dollars pay for public property too.
Mavric1919
It was in the 1800's that it was approved to add on coins and in the very early (Pre WWI) that it was mandatory to mint coin with it. It was not mandatory on paper money (though it was on it before then) until the 1950s. It is also the motto ot the united states after the war of 1812 after being part of the national anthem (we only sing the first part there are four parts)
The phrase in God we trust if a very rich part of our history but has noting to do with wording off communism.
Excalibur
........better not do too much scrubbing without the approval of SEIU..............!
Out of the Blue(Oath Keeper)
In God we Trust........Atheists must pay cash
Out of the Blue(Oath Keeper)
Atheists believe that Nothing created everything.
spleen
No, theists believe that, because Nothing must have created God.
Carolina Blues Billy-Bob
Obama might block any congressional hearing on this matter until the suit is decided in the Supreme Court with a PC verdict.... his true followers rejoice - "praise Allah!"
spagetti jimmy
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/marx-gramsci.htm
attack on Christianity
Janet in Florida
and the ACLU wants no crosses on federal property, period. Think of Arlington Cemetary & the many honorable military there who fought for your freedoms and of other countries, over many years and in many countries. Shameful !
spleen
Liar. The ACLU clearly states their position that gravestones at Arlington National are a personal religious expression by the deceased and/or the family of the deceased and are fully protected by the First Amendment.
www.aclu.org/images/asset_upload_file399_26244.pdf
Support and Defend the Constitution
All you Atheists... all you in the minority.. you have no choice. Our country is a Christian nation.. it was founded on Christian principles, our founding fathers saw to that.. Our country will always be a Christian nation... despite what our Muslim president incorrectly states. And I agree with other posters who have said, if you don't think there is a God then what do you have to worry about? Let us believe and go on disbelieving. So just sit down accept it. In God I Trust, in God we trust, Semper Fi and God Bless our country.
http://patrioticstand.proboards.com/index.cgi
TxGrma
They can take the name God off money, walls, signs,etc...but they will never get rid of God. One day they will find out and bow before Him in shame.
Sharon
These people make me sick trying to force everyone to believe as they do...just like Obama and his thugnation.
blarg
Are you talking about Atheists or Christians? Atheists are trying to stop Christians from trying to force their beliefs on them, not the other way around.
citrus
I get tired of Atheists. They need to go get drunk and just enjoy the life they think will end shortly.
-WE THE PEOPLE-
I tell you what...why don't you hellbent Athiests just not look up at it, because trust me, there's alot more of us than there are you! Stay away from the places if you get offended because personally we don't care if you are offended or not!!! Quit trying to change our country you imbeciles!!!!
saltydizzle
WOW THATS VERY CHRISTIAN OF YOU
Excalibur
..........why can't we start suing these Communist groups ?..........
Excalibur
..............YES..............!
saltydizzle
so you are saying all atheists are communists? Thats the problem with your religion . nothing is as cut and dry as you would like it to be. I know plenty of atheists that arent communist, better yet i know atheists that are conservative republicans. you are way off base typical tho from the small minded people on this website
Excalibur
..........Communism is an Atheistic political philosophy........
saltydizzle
havent heard that on before.
saltydizzle
atheism is a communist group?
real American
communism is an godless political philosophy
imsteph555
Sorry dudes-our country, whether you want to admit it or not, was founded on Judeo/Christian values and morals....by men and women who recognized our divine Creator as being a part of everything they did concerning the formation of this country.
Were they perfect? NEver-no one is perfect....did they have backbones? Absolutely!
To deny is treason-period.
US Male
One has to believe in God to hate Him as much as they do. What a bunch of hypocrites. Most likely unemployed with nothing better to do besides feeding at the public trough and looking for ways to make easy money.
TX_Family
Isn't it interesting that we had aethiests among our original founding fathers, but they never made such a rediculous self-centered demand; nor did they ever suggest that such restrictions upon God appearing on public buildings was wrong in any way?
funsailing
Thank you Mrs Bachmann, Mr Boehner and Mr Cantor. God Bless you for representing the Majority of Americans.
funsailing
In God I trust. forever.
Moonraker
Well the atheists say they don't believe in God and want Him out of government . They'll find out one day. There are no atheists in Hell, they all believe now, but...too late. aclu can't get them out of that prison !!
saltydizzle
separation of church and state. 1st amendment rights.
saltydizzle
where on any post have i ever said that i do not believe in a god, or maybe many gods, or maybe there is no god. You cannot tell me for certain that your god is the right god and everyone else who doesnt believe in christianity is going to eternal damnation. I may not believe in your silly little religion, but that in no way indicates that I dont believe that some higher power is possible. Im just not going to be so naive as to try and tell people that "I am right you are wrong, you are going to hell." or "you are gay so you are going to hell". The fact is religion is a big business, nothing more. theyre in the business of using scare tactics and fear mongering to gather "believers". why do you think religion is taught so young? because kids cant think for themselves and are so gullible that they will believe just about anything, especially if you scare them. as for the first amendment...its say in the first sentence, "congress will not make laws respecting the establishment of a religion". skew it anyway you want, but it says this country does not respect any religion. i agree tho that its BS that they (the government) can promote different religions and not promote christianity. That is discriminatory and definitely wrong. You can believe whatever you want, just dont tell me that you are right and Im wrong, or that this country is based on religion.